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My Next Project

Post by Squeaky » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:54 am

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I wish to construct a model similar to this ... but twisted into a sort of figure of eight.

Similar to the image of a rubber 'O' ring

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What I really need, before I can start, is a net of the model that I can fully study. I would really like to make a cardboard model first

Constructing the basic torus, as shown above, was very interesting and, surprisingly, not very difficult. It is hollow and constructed fom five or six different hardwoods.

If anybody is interested I can briefly describe my method of construction.

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Post by Squeaky » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:33 pm

The two following photographs show the method of construction for the torus.

Segments are assembled to form the ten sided section of rod. These were turned on a lathe to produce the shape as shown below.

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When several of these assembled segments were completed they were sliced in ten degree sections and 36 of them assembled to form the torus as shown in my original posting


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MY QUESTION .... for the more mathematically blessed

WHAT SHAPE WILL BE PRODUCED
IF I ROTATE EACH 10 degree SLICE/SECTION SAY 2.5 degrees.
WHEN ASSEMBLING?

If I keep everything aligned (NO ROTATION) then I produce a torus.

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Post by robertw » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:28 am

Squeaky wrote:WHAT SHAPE WILL BE PRODUCED
IF I ROTATE EACH 10 degree SLICE/SECTION SAY 2.5 degrees.
WHEN ASSEMBLING?

If I keep everything aligned (NO ROTATION) then I produce a torus.
A helix?

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Helix

Post by Squeaky » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:40 pm

Does any member of the forum know of a software that I can use to investigate a helix?

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Post by robertw » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:35 am

Not sure, but Stella can take an .OFF file as input, so if you have any programming skills, you may be able to write a program to output a helix in OFF format.

See http://www.software3d.com/StellaManual. ... a4D#import and http://www.geomview.org/docs/html/geomview_41.html

Something occurred to me though. You are slicing a cylinder of wood at an angle, so the cross-section is an elipse. There are only two angles where two such pieces will align: the original way that just recreates the cylinder, and rotated 180 degrees to create the torus. Any other angle will not line up properly.

A helix by the way is like one of the two strands in DNA, so it's not a closed shape anyway, ie not like the shape you made with the rubber 'O' ring.

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Helix

Post by Squeaky » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:30 am

Thanks for the information ... food for thought!

I had wondered about the angle generating an elipital shape but thought that because I am only wishing to rotate a few degrees then a little judicious sanding may be all that is required to blend.

I am doing trials with some Teak ... will post a few pictures next week to show progress.

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What is the name?

Post by Squeaky » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:03 pm

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What is the name of a shape with the configuration of the rubber 'O' ring above?

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Post by robertw » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:01 am

I don't know what to call that shape. It reminds me of a Moebius strip, but obviously isn't. It's really a torus with a lateral wave through it. I'll ask around, but maybe it has no name.

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Name of shape

Post by Squeaky » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:25 am

Thanks Rob!

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Four Twisted Semicircular Rings

Post by Squeaky » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:30 pm

I have just produced a quick 'mock-up' of the sort of thing that I wish to build.

I turned two wood rings, then sawed each into two. and glued the four together with a slight twist to each component.

With a bit of luck I should be able to develop this into the sort of thing that I want.

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